On May 22nd to May 24th Sandy had arranged a new meeting in Ireland with Angela Black and Adrian O´Connor from CIB (MABS). To this meeting I had invited Mr. Liam Edwards to attend, as he knows more about MABS and its early years than any other. Liam and I also had an inspiring meeting with Paul and Stuart Stamp, whom both also have had an active role in building up MABS in the 90ties, where we spend hours on talking about the history of dead counseling in Ireland and the international partnerships there was back then.